Even though we haven't been blogging since August, there are still over 60 hits a day in the last month and with the world now waking up to puppy miller operations and their horrible cruelty to the adults and pups, the hits to this site will only increase.
Take a look at the map of hits below.
And for those reading this post and would like more truth about Jack Sterling, you are welcome to visit (with caution) the MSN Thai Ridgeback forum
If you are new to reading about Sterling, you will need to view the rantings of a man suffering mental instability. Some of the indications of this are the size of his font, and the language he uses. The former is not because he lost his glasses in a fight in a bar (when a short Thai guy knocked him down with one punch... I could go on) but because he is SHOUTING!
The language he uses is derived from a deep disrespect he has for women.
ps - Jack - The numbers of hits you have on your silly one man atra site are from people referred on by the blog. It really is doing it's job, telling the world what a real menace to society you really are.
Jack Sterling sadly is still alive. Even more sadly many of the puppies he has forced into this world are no longer with us.
It is a fact, the miller breeds too many, cannot afford to keep them and then kills or dumps them like garbage.
Jack Sterling, you have not changed your ways in the year this blog has been reporting your shoddy operation. You are still churning out excessive amounts of pups and there are already too many dogs at your farm that should be released from their imprisonment and you should retire while you still can.
You never know who you upset by constantly bad mouthing Thai people and then showing your true 2 faced evil personality by smooth talking about how wonderful you think Thai people are in the next breath. Breath... you might not have too much of that for much longer.
Friday, August 22, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
55 dogs seized in raid on puppy mill
Cages stacked three high at Arthur operation
By KENNETH LOWE, Staff Writer
ARTHUR — In the corner of one pen at the Macon County Animal Control and Care Center, at least half a dozen tiny puppies huddled fearfully together in a pile, as far away from the door as possible.
Shelter manager Teresa Weybright pointed out the puppies, saying it is likely they cower because they’ve never been touched by humans. They have instead lived their short lives in wire cages stacked three high, and barely large enough for a full-size canine to move or stand.
At least two dogs were found dead in the cages.
They are a fraction of 55 dogs seized from an alleged puppy mill in rural Arthur early Friday morning after a week-long investigation carried out by Weybright and other members of Macon and Douglas county animal control agencies and the Humane Society of the United States.
You can read the full article here ...
Firstly the 'great' article written by a local lady around a year ago.
It seems from the way the article was written she was trying to help place his unwanted stock of low quality, nervous dogs and had been taken in by Jack and his wild exaggerations. Check your facts, Jo !
We checked back-dated issues only to find it was never accepted for publication. We speculate that Jack's reputation made him a poor candidate for help.
Really Jack, we always find you out sooner or later. I bet Jo Baggaley does not know about this - YET !
He never learns.
Secondly, a really pathetic attempt to deceive in one of his 'claim to fame' e mails.
On his former excuse for a website he drones on about selling a dog to Nick Cage as a pet for the famous actors son. May or may not be true, who cares.
He has now made up an e mail which gives the impression that he has received it from Cage recently. It mentions the horrible blog and gives the name of the dog, Ling and is signed 'Nick'. Just not at all convincing,- even to a four year old. I wonder if it still on the site or has it been whisked away?
Anyway, Jack you brightened up our day again. Yesterday was wet and grey until we checked the site. Then you brought a little light and a lot of laughter to us all.
Thanks for that but have you seen how the price of even your cheap rubbish dog food has gone up again?
He is busy trying to leave a lasting image of a fat, angry and hateful old man in the memories of anyone he meets.
He was seen in his No1 Market recently, the place where he is considering dumping a few of his unwanted dogs, at least there they will get food and socialisation.
Read this email from James & Oum. If you are easily offended, I would suggest you ask someone else to read the following letter on your behalf.
james here. please post the following account to the blog. no need for anonymity.
Thought id share a bit about the run-in Oum and I had with Jack Sterling at the market today(28/7/08). In a nutshell it consisted of typical jackass behavior: a lot of yelling, obscenities, threats and the like. Its funny how everything this guy spews out about the people he dislikes or doesnt agree with, which is just about everyone, are a dead on description of his own actions and character! Anyhow, the encounter didnt go any further than that as Oum and i simply left the scene leaving the jackass behind screaming.
Maybe youre wondering why Jack Sterling is so angry with Oum and I ? Well its simple and obvious to most. The version that Jack likes to tell is that I am a lying cheating scumbag etc. that stoled his "girlfriend" (the bitch whore cunt etc
In reality I did nothing to Jack to deserve those labels and Oum was not his girlfriend(he even said this to me in plain english: "she is not my girlfriend", and even went as far as asking me how anyone could be interested in a "fat slob" like that?). Jack is angry because I didnt help him to continue taking advantage of people, particularly Oum who he manipulated and cornered into being the sole caretaker of 80+ dogs. Oum was the life blood of Jack sterlings puppy mill operation in the sense that while she was there she did all she could to care for the dogs.
I know this because I was there for an entire month helping her care for the dogs and when I left so did Oum. Soon after our departure Jacks dogs were all sick, starving, or dying. People started to take notice and thats when this blog started.
After reading this youve probably got a lot more questions? Thats fine. If anyone would like to contact me you can email me at firstname.lastname@example.org ive got a whole lot of first hand accounts/experience regarding jack sterling that im willing to share with anyone who is interested.
Well that certainly tells it like it is !
Unfortunately Jack has many different 'faces' and most of them unattractive.Once the initial facade slips his true character is revealed. You are seeing him in 'begging for help' mode.
The aim of the blog is both to highlight his bad 'breeding' practices and his total lack of any concept of the way most of us behave towards each other and to animals in our care. He is uncaring towards his dogs. Did you know that many dogs at the Farm have bought from other dealers and breeders to order.
The talk of the careful and controlled breeding of these lovely dogs is not and never has been true. There have, we understand, been instances involving humane societies in USA BEFORE HE CAME HERE. We have information from people in America about Jack, who are still only willing to reveal their experiences to us on condition of absolute anonymity because of his aggressive behaviour towards them in the past.
His big complaint is that a Thai female, who lived with him for 3 years, allowed the dogs to breed when Jack was out of Thailand. He refuses to acknowledge responsibility for anything which goes wrong. These 11 litters were born during the last months of 2007 and the early months of this year. Several died of neglect (pneumonia and insufficient food and care) in their first weeks of life and were the focus of the cruelty case for which Jack was fined. Most of these young dogs are no longer there.
The 50 plus animals he is trying to re-home are much older than these puppies. Clearly, the situation has been going on for a long time. In the past he allowed indiscriminate breeding in the hope of producing one or two good quality pups and selling the remainder as best he could.
Sterling breeds to make his living. We have said before that we do not have a problem with dog breeders as such but his dogs are merely commodities to be bought and sold.
It is very sad and we do not like these magnificent animals to be caged day in day out, without anything but the most basic needs. Poor food, no socialization and not even a piece of rag to lie on and to cover the hard plastic and metal 'beds' . They are briefly released for a short time when he hoses out the steel pens which are their world and then they are quickly returned to their cells.
Workers will not stay with him for more than a few weeks, as his personality is so loud and aggressive both to them and to the animals.
If you are able to help Sterling in his efforts to re-home his dogs, then please do so. If we thought people were finding a place in their hearts and homes for the prisoners then we would feel that the blog had served its purpose.
Saying this, it is a situation in which Sterling has found himself before and, in his attempt to make a living through indiscriminate breeding, will find himself again before very long.
His workers have gone !
'Early to bed, early to rise, Makes a man healthy, wealthy and
wise.... but not in Jack's case. It is killing him.
All his 'friends' at the market told one of us that he's 'Home Alone'
once more. The last 2 could not stand the shameful shouting and left.
They didn't last long.
Once more, we are grateful for our Thai friends at the market to keep
us up to date with the antics down on the farm.
The not so humorous side to this is that the poor dogs will get even
less attention and exercise than usual, not to mention little food and
poor quality at that. All those puppies living day in day out in their
cages, no socialization during the most important time of their lives.
What the lack of socialization means is that they are even harder to
rescue and re-home.
But then, as we've said before they are just
commodities to Jack the Miller.
Fabulous bit of snooping there EPW, we all look forward to the update you can give us about his empty handed en devours out of food supply stores.
By the way, youtube.com is ideal for hosting that video footage, if you need help uploading, let us know.
'Silence is golden' they say.
When Farmer Jack is quiet it's serious. No childish jokes on ATRA and no exciting tales of grass cutting. Even the shouting around the mill is less these days. We haven't seen him out much recently and so we've been putting in a few extra hours on surveillance lately.
We didn't have to wait long before he was at his local pet store. He was looking old, fatter than ever and tired. Strange to find him there because he's always buying the dog' food', if you can call it that, elsewhere. We know he's in the local cash and carry buying their cheapest kibble so that he can go to Duke's Steakhouse for a ribs or steak dinner.
We know exactly what he feeds is really so low grade that even the hard-up rescue groups refuse to buy it.
We see him at night taking away the empty blue and white bags and dumping them well away from his house. Illegal here, so who shall we tell ? Who shall we show the video footage to?
So why was he in the pet store? He was not in long and came out empty handed. He looked in a bad mood and stomped back to his hill billy truck. Looks like he didn't get the result he'd hoped for. This must go unanswered for now but keep an eye on the blog for further revelations because we always find out what he's up to in the end....
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But I think you should be open with this human, let them know that the other 196 registered members of your forum are in fact you under another name. You know there is only the small fan club of 3 and that's it!
- "Yes, and up! At the ATRA site we really only want to be positive and tell the real truth about the TRD breed. Unlike the other TRD internet message boards and blog sites we will promote the truth and nothing but the truth about this breed and it breeders. You will find nothing in a negative nature and if you do please tell us and we will make sure it is addressed and deleted if anything offends anyone."
Thanks for giving us all such a good laugh on a very dull day. You really have brightened things up for us.
Always something new from you, 'wife', 'shows' and even writing a book now. Good try. The email we received and posted recently mentioned that you never go to shows but suddenly you do. Strange nobody sees you there! Once seen never forgotten.
The wife, does she know she's your wife? We think it's another giant leap for Jack-kind into the family life mode. It's another Thai lady! How come this one will be different? You loose your temper and say such bad things about the Thai people but very quickly another local 'lady' moves in.Sadly, once they leave they chatter all around the place about you. They tell what they've seen and heard at your place. It's all believable, unfortunately for you. Perhaps this one will be different from all the rest and you'll be happy ever after. I really doubt it. Never was a great success for you was it? You can't sustain a normal relationship for any length of time, and it's always the womens fault.
Anyway, it really doesn't matter but with such a vivid imagination we can't wait for your book to be published ! We really think it will be a best seller and make millions for you, - NOT !
Still trying to get rid of the old stock? Still breeding more and more 3rd rate dogs ? Had many takers? NOT !
Anyway, that's all from us except to say that we noticed a slight error in one of your last thrilling ATRA postings. It is not a case of one man or woman against you in Chiang Mai. We are 11 residents and almost as many part time residents. We love to read and hear all about you and watch you unseen as you try to keep up this shabby existence. Even here it is becoming more and more expensive to live. You must be having a hard time keeping pace with all the rising costs. Those dogs of yours will soon be skin and bone again.
Anyway that's all for now except to thank you for your open house invitation you recently posted. Thanks we'd love to come and pay you a visit.
Any chance meeting, even though it was in a crowd or a case of being in the same building at the same time, makes a famous person 'Jacks friend'.
How sad is this? A lonely old man nearing the end of his worthless, non-productive life trying to get respect and attention wherever he can.
The one thing he nearly got right was getting the Thai Ridgeback breed known overseas. Jack writes the story like the Thai people had not done anything about breeding and seem really not to have noticed them ! Laziness, arrogance, greed, ignorance and no knowledge of dog behavior is why he never really made it. These days he can't even give them away.If he did he would just increase his production line and be in the same state again in a year or so.
Any half-descend breeder goes to shows, interacts with other breeders in the area and learns from the experience. No photos to show of anything like that from Sterling. Not good ol' Papa Jack, he's been out of the ring so long he's not 'Yesterday's man' he's 'FORGOTTEN MAN'.In Jack's case they ban him from sites and membership of breed clubs. His loud and slandering responses to anyone who disagrees with him are more than decent people will stand. Result, he's all alone.
Sadly, another thing that this latest nonsense draws attention to is the recent postings on his ATRA site. So many people are described as 'my friend' or' My Thai friends'. He has repeated his usual trick of calling people who he has just met ' my friend'. He's so quick with the camera. That's not how it works Jack. Just because they speak and smile it does not make them your friend. Frankly, you disgust most people, especially Thai's.
The Animal Welfare photos are quite convincing at face value. Anyone living in Thailand knows how low standards of puppy mills are. Jack shows some smiling Thai officers but Thais are known world wide for their constant smiles. True the men went to Jack's but there is only his word about why they went and what they found. A small amount of money will produce a very favorable reaction over here. Say no more...Let's see a report in Thai, Jack.
Another thing is he has no website to speak of. He posts silly jokes on ATRA because he has no interaction with the dog world. We don't care about who cuts your grass. Don't good breeders have a pedigree line after so many years in their breed? Millers don't...their dogs are just commodities.
Don't insult us by writing your rubbish about how great you are. You live a shocking life. No wonder you are all alone.
Written in Thai, the police report states that on 26 December 2007, Jack Sterling was accused of causing cruelty to a puppy, which resulted in the puppy dying. An investigation followed and he was declared guilty.
The maximum fine in Thailand for this offense is 1,000 baht (approx US$30) and on the 16 January 2008, Jack is recorded as pleading guilty to the charge and paying the fine.
The 3rd paragraph sets out the options available to Sterling in the event of this offense reoccurring. Jail!
So there we have it, the man who has managed to wriggle free from criminal charges for so long finally has one in the public domain.
This is not a parking ticket, let alone an assault on another person charge. This is a conviction against him for causing a puppy to die through cruelty.
Jack Sterling, puppy breeder, convicted of cruelty to a puppy.
Oh before I forget, Happy Birthday Jack from all here at "Save Dogs".
For the Dogs!
Click image to enlarge.
Original Post in December 2007 Here...
It pays to read the pages on this site before thinking about buying a $2,500 dog from Jack Sterling and taking it back to the states. (ps Jack, they said your house was filthy!)
There are other breeders in Chiang Mai, other locations in Thailand, let alone in the rest of the world, who are far more open and honest, clean and healthy, let alone good to do business with.
Bua Bua and many others are still available and all need good homes..
Last September, I asked a few local people to help me place several dogs......
What a mistake that was..
Instead of helping me find new homes for all these "leftover" TRD, these "vipers" just went all out and attacked me in every possible way.. From slandering me in a phony newspaper story to filing a false police report telling the local police I had been abusive to a dying pup which was just totally false and that I would kill my pups by drowning them, gassing them, hanging them and freezing them, just to be rid of the ones I did not want.
This was all just totally insane.
All of this was made of stories that were created to discredit me in the eyes of all who had any interest in buyong a TRD from me.
All these people want is to see me fail in the TRD breed and try to prove I am a cruel and brutal man killing off any puppy or dog that suits me.
Now, I find all of this quite odd as almost a year later I am still feeding and caring for most of the same dogs while none of these so call rescue people have done a thing to help me at all. One Brit lady took two dogs and also gave two more FAWN TRD females that I had gave her to a local rescue group who finally gave them to some American chap, but refuses to tell me who and where my dogs have ended up. I just do not understand these people.
Why do they all attack me??
Only about 3-4 of these people have actually been to my home and none of them are saying anything about their visits. The people who do voice a opinion about my home have all been quite positive and have supported me with their own true stories. Those people who slander the most have never been here and have never even seen my kennel or met my TRD. I find them all quite strange.
I just do not get all the nasty, vicious, and dishonest behavior from all these people who do not even know me??
These cowards will not ID themselves and just hide behind their computers. I just will continue feeding all the dogs the best that I can and try to find as many homes as I can..
As for all of you people who continue to slander and lie about me.. try looking down deep into your hearts and ask yourselves why you are so filled with hate..
But I have been to your home, been to your dirty, crowded factory when you were not bothered to care as you should. How would I know the truth about you otherwise?
To name myself here would be suicide. Your previous record for shaking a hand and ripping off the arm is well recorded and to think that you are on my doorstep fills me with horror as you would not want to let a simple discussion rest at that.
Jack Sterling, you need to admit that what has been written within this blog is basically true. You might not agree with the way it's worded but you need to reflect on your own views of what constitutes a puppy miller.
You are a nasty, mean, tough, loud and arrogant guy and were someone to meet you face to face and even intimate that you are actually all this blog has said, without a doubt, you would show your colors and that would set the outcome.
Shame on you Next Day Pets!
The rain seems to fall as if to wash away the filth, almost as if it had never rained before, trying to wash the pain and suffering of those who shelter there.
Sterling's Puppy Mill, whose entrance is less than a kilometer from the failed tourist attraction, is awash with the deluge from the daily down pour we get here at this time of year and indeed, as if like clock work, at this time of day.
As I look at the rain I wonder about the drops that hit the scotched ground under my feet and think about the puppies at House of Sakorn. I think about the adults and teenagers too, who have only known a life at the mill. I think also about the ones who are now lost, the dead, murdered and dumped. Did they deserve to be born to Sterling's brutality and evil, did they have any choice in their fate. If only this blog had existed 10 years ago, if only there had been a conviction brought against Sterling in a country where his crimes would be suitably addressed. If only, if only, if only...
The rain is now easing, it poured for about half an hour. The frogs have started to croak, sing & moan, the monkeys at Night Safari are starting their calls and the dogs in the villages are exercising their lungs for a few last woofs before turning in for the night.
It's at times like this, with the rain cleansing the air and bringing me such feelings, that I most regret not doing more to help those poor creatures sooner.
Rain is an emotional experience and I hope you are able to share my thoughts.
- Congratulations Jack. Another dog from lovely hot Thailand sold to a very cold country.
Your old article written when you were still in America says words to the effect that you are hunkered down just trying to keep yourself and your dogs warm. It really is not fair.
It's very bad what you will do for money. That reminds me, you're doing quite well these days selling so many dogs. I think the USA tax man will be very pleased to get his hands on all the back tax you owe him. Check out the legal situation here with the lawyer you owe money to. Ask him how you stand in the tax paying situation over in Thailand.
Who is the Thai gent in the picture? He don't look so happy to be photographed with ol' redneck Jack. Is he the one who takes them through cargo at Thai air? I bet you don't get very close since you owe them all that dough.
So. How many are in your run down rusty cages now? The old stock you never sold.What about them? They suffer life in prison year after year with no hope. They are the ones nobody ever see.The ones people try to put out of their mind when they are buying a puppy.
You'll always be trash.
Blogger, keep chasing him.
- Sterling has this fixation that the more famous people who correspond or speak to him the better he and his dogs must be.
The Sir Elton John was a ridiculous claim, - and the outcome so predictable. This 4 seconds of 'fame' with the Clinton's was not worth the mention and now he is at it again.
He does not credit his readers with very much intelligence when, just as he tries to rally round from the latest bashing, yet another titled gent gets a mention and this time writes in to defend Jack's set- up.
Forgive me, Sir Winston Begley, if I have made a mistake but I can't seem to find you listed in the appropriate registers.
I can't help but wonder if you are one and the same family who could no longer care for their Ridgeback and Jack agreed to take it back. No shame on you at all and every credit to Jack, for once, in keeping the dog all this time at his own expense. But you should hear his moaning and complaining about it. I have heard him more than once call you a name which puts some doubt on the virtue of your mother and father. I am sure that, had you known how the poor dog would live out its days in stressful boredom in a cramped cage, you would have thought twice about leaving it behind with the breeder.
a true dog lover.
I am a Chiang Mai resident but do not wish to give my name. The reason is because it is a small city and I would not like a confrontation with this man.
Jack Sterling does not have a pleasant manner and most people try to avoid contact with him. He is loud and scruffy and would easily cause a scene in public. I saw him about 6 months ago almost brawling in a supermarket with another American. Sterling was loud and aggressive with the staff at the meat counter and the second American stepped in.He was taking the side of the shop workers as Sterling was shouting as his meat and bones were not ready for him. Both men were shouting. It was very embarrassing for customers and staff. I just wanted to get away.
I have been here for almost nine years and understand that the Thai people are angry and disgusted when foreigners behave like this. We would be the same if we had to put up with this in our home country.
As for the dreadful crime with the puppy, I have asked my Thai friends and the story is absolutely and completely true.The fine was paid by Jack Sterling. There are many other stories about his brutal and uncaring attitude but nothing seems to have been done by the police. I wonder why. Certainly there has been more than one hanging of dogs, the last was a female, by Sterling at his home.I will spare you the details.
What he forgets is that we are the outsiders and we don't know who knows who. The Thai social structure is like any other.They have cousins and friends scattered all over the surrounding villages.
I know there are puppy 'mills' everywhere these days. It is sickening but at least in a 'developed' country the neglected animals can be confiscated.There are societies in place to deal with these cases.Here, very little is done at present. Perhaps in the early days of dog breeding he was not so bad. I say this as he describes the Puppy Mill with the contempt it deserves.I wonder at what point he became one himself.
When the dislike of a foreigner by the Thai people is so great, as it is with Jack Sterling, it reflects on every other foreigner living here.Even in our small community the news that there is a blogger speaking out against another foreigner is disturbing. I am shocked how often it is mentioned.It seems widespread through all areas of the non-Thai community.
I have now read some of the blog and the man certainly does have to defend himself on every side.
I can't believe that it is all made up. There must be truth in what I have read.He really seems to go through life like a charging bull.
All these women he attacks,does he have to be so crude and use this filthy gutter language? I see that the blogger is female, according to Sterling. I get no strong impression of that.I do get the impression that he dislikes women, so a blogger ( someone against him) must be a woman to him.
If this e mail is put on the blog, let it be known that I am a woman. Let it be known that I am an animal lover. Let it be known that what goes around, comes around.I wouldn't be him for all the money and fame in the world.
Wow! Way to go girl !
Dogs bark. That' what dogs do. They also eat, sleep, drink, walk(if out of their prison cell) and of course what goes in, must come out. They poo & pee.
Dogs' bark Jack, unless it escaped your attention, that is what dogs do.
Read more about behavior control here.
Jack will have you believe these are necessary because he will tell you his dogs bark.
In fact if the truth be known, they are so damned terrified of a fisting or slapping by him, a torturous torrent of abuse or horrific banging and shaking of cages(their prison cells), many of the Sakorn dogs are scared to communicate with a human, let alone show their views about what is going on around them.
If you are easily offended or object to crude or vular language, DO NOT read this email from Jack Sterling.
- From: JACK STERLING
Date: 2008/04/26 Sat AM 01:53:49 BST
Subject: Re: Re: creative site
As I said,, a whore or a slut .. is what you appear to be.. Low class for sure as your words prove that..
My foto of a bitch whelping her brood with a few others mixed in is what got you nasty foul mouth started.. She was thin.. too thin for nasty mouthed Donna Mo hammed of Leeds UK.. so, this cuntish like creature of the night sitting at her computer decided to attack a young man in his 60's over it..
Who the fuck are you?? You are a nobody.. same as Carmen.. a nobody with a bad mouth.. The guy you were in Thailand with said you were nasty but he said in very polite way.. he was right.. You are a nasty ho and have a very nasty mouth for a 40-something whatever anyone could call you.. You could have been polite but you even said you are not a very polite person more than once.
Kill unwanted dogs?? Sorry charlie, you are as ignorant as dames can get next to your typical com-padres in slander.. I don't like your kind of what hair lip??
Crawl back into my hole?? You are the one living in a hole in the UK..Leeds??
Spare that insult.. Been there.. but seen much better even in America..
Loser?? I just sold a TRD for $15,000 and another for $5000.. funny how you should think i am a loser.. I am the one who drives all the prices higher for all the other breeder to do the same and not undercut anyone.. but try to make people pay as high a price as they can for a quality TRD and not some crap like you imported from real winners.. spare me the slander you silly immature child..
Why do so many loving people look at you and laugh when they hear your name?
Oh.. another sand monkey trying to capitalize on a rare breed of dog..
You are a joke to all who will read anything you say.. better stay off the net for a while.. there is someone or something heading your way soon..
Read more about his alter ego here. (Viewer discretion advised - Adult content)
You`re @:: Get a TRD Different types of breeding
House of Sakorn-Sterling TRD
Proudly had the very first litter of Thai Ridgeback puppies on May 19th 1994 in San Francisco, CA. USA. Being the first real hobby breeder in North America, I carefully incorporated three bloodlines to produce Thai Ridgeback Dogs of top quality with no deviation from the standard. I have always been a hobby breeder over 40 years.
Here are some of the definitions of the different kinds of dog people out there. Beware of them and also of those people who love to slander the leaders in any breed new or old.
Here are the Dog Owner's Guide's definitions to help you decide who is who:
 The Hobby breeder:
This is the what most dog show and self-respecting people are. A breed fancier who usually has only one breed but may have two; follows a breeding plan in efforts to preserve and protect the breed; produces from none to five litters per year; breeds only when a litter will enhance the breed and the breeding program; raises the puppies with plenty of environmental and human contact; has a contract that protects breeder, dog, and buyer; runs a small, clean kennel; screens breeding stock to eliminate hereditary defects from the breed; works with a breed club or kennel club to promote and protect the breed; and cares that each and every puppy is placed in the best home possible.
 The Commercial breeder:
One who usually has several breeds of dogs with profit as the primary motive for existence. The dogs may be healthy or not and the kennel may be clean or not. The dogs are probably not screened for genetic diseases, and the breeding stock is probably not selected for resemblance to the breed standard or for good temperament. Most commercial breeders sell their puppies to pet stores or to brokers who sell to pet stores.
 The Puppy Broker:
One who buys puppies from commercial kennels and sells to retail outlets. Brokers ship puppies by the crate-load on airlines or by truckload throughout the country. Brokers must be licensed by USDA and must abide by the shipping regulations in the Animal Welfare Act.
 The Buncher:
These people make me sick because they are the ones who collects dogs of unknown origin for sale to laboratories or other bunchers or brokers. Bunchers are considered lower on the evolutionary scale than puppy mill operators, for there is much suspicion that they buy stolen pets, collect pets advertised as "Free to a good home", and adopt unwanted pets from animal shelters for research at veterinary colleges or industrial research laboratories.
 The Backyard Breeder:
These are the real idiots in any breed...A dog owner whose pet either gets bred by accident or who breeds on purpose for a variety of reasons. This breeder is usually ignorant of the breed standard, genetics, behavior, and good health practices. A backyard breeder can very easily become a commercial breeder or a puppy mill.
 The Puppy Mill:
This a poor excuse of a breeder who produces puppies hand over fist with no breeding program, little attention to puppy placement, and poor health and socialization practices. A puppy mill may or may not be dirty but it is usually overcrowded and the dogs may be neglected or abused because the breeder can't properly handle as many dogs as he has. Puppy mill operators often denigrate hobby breeders and their dogs in attempts to make a sale.
Posted by Jack Sterling:
I was born in 1947.. and had my very one dog at 7 in 1955.. I started breeding dosg as my father and his father and his father did since the 1800's. I bred dogs in Germany, London, the USA and now here in northern Thailand. I discovered the Thai Ridgeback Dog in 1994 here in Thailand. I traveled through 32 states between 1995 and 2000 showing off the beauty of the TRD. Now I reside with all my TRD in ChiangMai Thailand. I was in the pet supply business for over 25 years and have always been self employed. I sold all kinds of dogs foods and have read all sorts of stories about the first dog food companies. James Spratt an American living in London was the first creator of what we called "kibble" dog food today way back in the 1860's..It was done for all the English dogs that were used in the "hunts" that was popular back then. Then later in the 1940's after WWII the bag food processed foods became the norm all across the world.. I prefer the old way of feed the dogs.. the BONE DIET..Raw foods and yes.. less vacines and less processed foods the better. also one day a week to "fast" them at least one to two days a week.. Wild dogs do not eat everyday..only when they are hungry..In today world all over the world we all tend to over feed out animals as well as ourselves. :) BE HAPPY and give your dog a big hug daily.. My oldest TRD is SAKORN who is now 13 years young.. see them all at www.ThaiDog.com
02/8/2006 @ 13:04:43
Poor dogs, no wonder they look and behave so sub standard. The ones that get away are the lucky ones!
Think about the 90+ he has there right now. This statement made 4 April 2008 on Dogster.
The first one in each pair are from http://www.thaidog.com a replacement site that Jack filled with rubbish in January 2008, & I must admit that this was as a direct result of this blog critcising his old site.
The second link in each pair is from his ATRA forum. Please note the posting to the forum date.
http://thaidog.com/testimonials3.html (scroll down a few )http://www.thairidgebackdog.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=410
This tells me that Sterling is hard up for good news and is desperate to publish something.... anything.... even recycled rubbish, on his one man one mouth ATRA forum that represents his Puppy Mill shop window.
Any reader wishing to qualify this is welcome to write to this blog.
I have removed some of the photo's in the posts just for ease of reading but they can all be seen in the MSN postings or on the blog
From: Beam8224 Sent: 30/04/2008 00:24
Not sure if Jack deserved the 30$
Sorry we are thai and our law with animal cruelty still bit weak as you can see from the police record Donna shown to you all
Hopefully he going to jail too please !!
From: Donna_UK9 Sent: 30/04/2008 02:00
I understand the way things are in Thailand Beam, having visited Thailand and seen for myself the way things are out there
The problem I have with Jack is he is American and comes from a country were
animal welfare is taken seriously! he knows how dogs should be looked after... but
chooses to keeps his animals in such poor health and conditions. he does not care about this beautiful breed of dog... he only cares about the money
From: Beam8224 Sent: 30/04/2008 02:38
It is so Donna I ashame to say stuff about my country but it is really happened like that when you do that do this pay that bit this bit you give yourself in to the police and you finally get good lawyer you do not even need to go to jail ,,, there is different way of thinking from thai people and westerner about animal cruelty cant change that
I think this matter should be sent to the US and let him face the US laws instead of thai's law with animal,,,can be done tho you think ? just post all infos you've got to there maybe this get in US record with this Mister Jack in it ,,, sad sorry could not do more just feel so sorry for the puppy and all those in the pictures in a little cage got no care what so ever call fun for the dogs,,
Maybe send this to Animal planet let this matter goes around the world to every pair of eyes so people know more ! about mr. jack
I read his matter with TRD.co.uk before and I feel sorry for the lady also
Did you mean the same lady that give up ? just guessing ,,,
From: Donna_UK9 Sent: 30/04/2008 15:17
"Yes" Beam.... The ladys name was 'Carmen' and she had a really bad experience with Jack
Jack constantly attacked her for what she wrote about him to warn others not buy from him... I too have been attacked and slandared by Jack for showing people the
truth about him, as have many other good people who are trying to reveal the truth about Jack for the sake of the dogs.
Many of us have wrote and petitioned the animal charties to take action against Jack
but unfortunately while he hides in Thailand these authorities are powerless.
All we can do is make sure as many people as possible see these pictures as they speak for themselves...
I look at the faces of those poor dogs and see thier sadness.
It just makes me so angry thay Jack can make so much money from there misery and suffering.
From: Beam8224 Sent: 30/04/2008 15:27
This have to do with the thailand part to remove the dogs rehome and take care of them not sure if there is any rescue animal police in thailand but I been here for 10 years now thailand is really new to me if I am in thailand I would help the dogs..
ah well spread the words hopefully one day he get what he deserved you never know
From: judybeard Sent: 01/05/2008 07:18
Has any of you actually spoken to Jack Sterling in real time?
I contacted him by email and he asked be to join him in gmail and also in skype. The person you are speaking about does not sound like the same person I spoke to over the phone. I asked him about these same issues and what he says is different to what I see here in this message board. I was shocked and surprised by the emails he had forwarded to me from Donna.
Donna, I read your past emails to him as he wanted me to see what you write in private. I could only see a very angry person writing in that way.
Beam, I would not believe any of this negative response from any of these people who post such stuff.. There is no proof of all these claims of abuse and all I got was just the opposite from him.
We will find out soon enough as we will go to Chiang Mai and visit with him and all his dogs this summer on our vacation to Asia.
From: Impestor0 Sent: 01/05/2008 11:21
Who do you think your fooling Jack Beard? Fake.
From: Beam8224 Sent: 01/05/2008 14:14
oh god forgive me I dont even want to disscus this matter here go:
Judy no offense meaning I am Thai and I know if there is nothing real the local authority would not make arrested and the animal welfare law in thailand is VERY weak compare to US's.
It does not matter the wind that came from the mouth of mr.Jack smell like. I do not think the people on the boards wasted them time and energy to just typing craps I believe they got better thing to do than that!
Everything happened for a reason Judy! If I were you I dont even wasted my time and money go to visit mr.Jack. Maybe go visit Chaing Mai !!
I did not take any side but I saw the dog mother who is really skinny feeding her babies in the rotten cage with my OWN EYES from the pictures. And that depressed me how can a human do such thing to the animal who only know how to love you !!
I can speaking and reading 5 languages Thai/English/Dutch/Chinese 2 kinds Cantonese/Mandarin
I could read the police record that Donna attached to the message very well. Maybe it is not mr. Jack's signature but there is another 2 witnesses in the paper and the local authority who typing the records thats 3 included !!! + mr. Jack who gave himself in.
If I am blind or dumb it is not just me I believe its the local nieghbors of mr. Jack and local Authorities also !
And lady Carmen who living in UK have bad experiences with mr.Jack directly you can go read it in Thai-ridgeback.co.uk I do not think she has reason to lies because of high vets bills she made and all fed up in TRD breed because 1 person !! Mr. Jack !! This is not just a matter of TRD its the matter of the animal well being take it serious punish the one !!I do not have personal reason to HATE mr. Jack but I do HATE what he did to the animals ! to be honest 90 dogs in that kinda piece of house and land ? I dont think so its enough to take care like 3 dogs max!! Love the animals and care them like you care for your own body !! oh by the way I do wiped my dogs buttocks everytime after they done them toilet like I do it for myself.
with kind regards,
beam and kids and all animal lovers of the world !!!
From: Donna_UK9 Sent: 01/05/2008 15:17
Judy if you have read my emails to Jack... would you like to see some of the emails I
have received from him?
"Of course I am angry!!!" As everybody should be when dealing with anybody who can care so little about an animal and make them suffer as Jacks dogs are suffering!!!
Judy B, If you was a dog would you be happy to stay at Jack Sterlings kennels?
I don't think so...
Can you seriously tell me you would be happy to buy one of Jacks puppies from the female Gina who is so skinny... yet still trying to feed her puppies?
There are many many GOOD breeders in Thailand with kennels that even have a water cooloing system to keep there dogs cool in the heat
It is these breeders you should support as they take very good care of there dogs!!! and love and show the breed.
I have the contact details of many Thai breeders who you can visit...
If you would like to contact me by email I will be happy to give the details to you.
I don't have anything to feel bad about...I am only showing people the truth... I dont even
have to personally attack Jack or say anything bad about him as the evidance speaks for itself!!!
Judy if your seriously thinking of getting a TRD why would you want to support a puppy farm? Do the animals suffering in these pictures mean NOThING.... to you?
Do these animals look well fed and cared for to you Judy B?
Here is another wonderful quote ripped from the one man soap box that Jack Sterling likes to call a forum.
- Can anyone tell me what the shipping is the the U.S. I spoke with Jack and he is a wonderful person to talk too. We will be doing that again soon lol. I havent decided on male or female and not sure what color I am going to get. I think they are truly amazing dogs and cant wait until the time comes for me to own one.
Fort Worth TX
Read more about Jack Sterlings Puppy Mill here.
Take a look at this wonderful testimonial on his ATRA fourm. You can almost believe it was made without any pressure.
"Thanks again for STERLING's MAI NIKITA and we look forward to receiving my newest STERLING TRD a FAWN male we will call "SAMSON" despite the silly claims that "Jack Sterling is a Puppy Mill Breeder" that are posted by jealous people on some silly discussion boards."
We all wait with baited breath for Mary to receive her delivery of SAMSON from Jack. No doubt we will endure the Q&A session with even more panto.
Maybe by then the wizzo will have grown his hair & his strength returned?
But then you read on through the invaluable source of entertainment at ATRA & realise that Jack is regurgitating old posts and republishing them.
Just like this individual (if 'Kurtis' really exists outside of Jack's imagination, in the form of the one man one voice ATRA forum) he intimates what wonderful work Sterling is doing to save the breed.
WAKE UP! Jack is in fact destroying the breed.
A puppy mill process is not just cruel to the 90+ (his words) residents at the farm right now as they all need attention, food, socialising, exercise, hygienic surroundings etc but it is cruel to the breed as a whole because the inbreeding that is going on at the mill degenerates the gene pool and degrades the qualities of the bred puppies.
Jack Sterling does not roam the streets of Chiang Mai looking for dumped Thai Ridgebacks to rescue & save. Neither does he take back into his farm any dogs that have previously come from there. He has too many already to feed and the last thing he wants is more unsaleable dogs, dwindling the already low supply of food.
How on earth does anyone outside of Jack's tiny mind think that he saves dogs?
The majority of the puppies born at the puppy mill since December 2007 have failed to show the distinctive ridge, despite his claims to the contrary and he is being forced to sell or even give these poor quality specimens as pets.
The reality is that he has been generating masses of puppies previously for circulation into the market place for breeding and showing. He literally flooded the market.
He is now voicing that he cannot sell his show quality puppies as this blog has ruined his reputation. He fails to recognise he has been his worst enemy by showing his operation to be the shady puppy mill that it really is, by attempting to cover up the truth.
Erecting high internal fences, repainting his old cages, dumping dogs that waste his resources at local shelters or even killing them to reduce their numbers and burden on his dwindling finances. He was even prosecuted by Thai Police for abusing a puppy which led to it dying. Hanging others from a balcony to die, putting them in the freezer, let alone starving them to death and exposing them to illness due to poor standards of hygiene.
Here is a man (he would say) who cares for the breed and for the dogs.
With some simple statements like these, plainly presented for all to read, the obvious is apparent.
Jack Sterlings' Thai Ridgeback dogs are poor quality, he does not show that he looks after dogs let alone the breed that he is so loud and vociferous about. He has just been on the crest of a wave trying to make a fast buck!
As a "father-like figure" he speaks so friendly & kind NOT! Why does Jack even have access to the MSN Forum if he is such a bad mouthed poster?
Please tell anyone who reads his words that there is another side to this monster and if they wish to enter into a discussion with him, they should be very aware of some of his methods.
Jack Sterling speaks with some authority & conviction on this matter. He hangs dogs from his balcony and waits for them to die a slow and agonizing death, for all the villagers around his home to see and hear. FACT!
I must say I really enjoyed myself, relaxing under palms, watching coral seas gentle ebb & flow under a pure blue sky. The night's weren't that bad either, it's amazing how many stars you see when eating fresh seafood and sipping on iced water under the beautiful moonlit cloak of night nearer the equator.
Anyway, back to the present and poor old Jack is still in struggle mode, trying to convince the world he is squeaky clean and all his history is a pack of lies thrown together by a bunch of dumb wits that have never really met him or talked with him.
How sad you must be feeling Jack, under the smog of hot, hot, hot Chiang Mai, realising that your past cannot just be wiped away and it's here to haunt you for life.
Didn't receive the invite to the wedding party Jack, when is the big day? Sure as heck that woman will set you straight. Best thing you will ever do, marrying a Thai woman and her family, along with all the cultural activity that you will be so pleased to follow and enjoy.
You will of course embrace her whole family won't you Jack? Oh, and what about the silly stuff like who has rights to what and what should happen if you just 'pop off'?
Anyway Jack, Sawasdee Pii Mai and lets hope you enjoy your last days in Chiang Mai.
His dogs are poor quality, have coat and physical (let alone sociological) issues and he continues to face up to it.
Why won't you just simply answer the question?
Coat or Sores?
Jackass. The wounds look to make the fawn dog lame, and you rate this as pet quality to somehow justify your lack of care.
They would have to be quite short sighted to miss the obvious issues in the information he has posted,let alone the wonderful new pictures the world is waiting to see any day now!
Lets hope he has used Photoshop to take out the nicks & blemishes and filled in the poor creatures rib cages with some flesh!
"Those scum bags have screwed my sales" and "Slime, they don't even know me" were just a couple of the comments coming to us and he is admitting to defeat and ruin.
Chiang Mai has been home to this slippery character for just over 4 years and now the noose has tightened and he will soon need to move out.
Money is what has oiled his wheels for so many years but the greed has ruined him. To save his face, he has been forced to throw any savings he had into fighting the truth about the shady puppy mill operation he runs and preparing for visitors that are looking deeper and asking more questions.
Build fences, sound proof the loud ones, paint cages, kill and dump a few old dogs but he still has to face up to the rising cost of living in Thailand and his bills are stacking up around his ears.
One vet we talked to said Sterling owed him thousands and one store keeper refused to talk too much, save to say that Sterling was banned from taking anymore food without paying cash.
But Sterling has one friend. Dr Pelapan Ounmee's smelly (too many cats peeing in the shop) is a real dump and the standards of hygiene are worse than Sterlings own, but "Pet Home" or Baan Satliang are only too pleased to do anything for money, as Sterling knows too well.
Need a vaccine date stamp? He's your man! Need the date back dated ? Dr Pe's certainly your man. Dr Pe is just what Jack needs, a friendly corrupt and easy-go-lucky guy that is only too pleased to help.
Subject:We can't believe it!
Sorry but we all know you from way back.Nice try but you don't fool us buddy.So let's set the record straight.
You thought it thro' and are trying to clean up your image.You even photograph better now you took a shower.
Say nice things about the Thai people. Pretend you like 'em and treat 'em good. Keep your fat mouth shut and keep on smilin.Too late.
Feed the dogs up and paint the cages, soundproof the 'kennels'.Well good for them - but the damage is already done big style.But we have to give you marks for trying. AND WHY ARE YOU TRYING SO HARD? Because you are wiped out.It's over, you're finished and you know it. You bought cheap and sold high but it couldn't last.You're a greedy SOB and you got bit in the ass with your own teeth!
The woman you got a few weeks ago can't take any more. Bye, Khun Jack.Sure you paid her a high salary but it's the only way Thai folk will work for you.Even then they soon quit. They don't like what they see and hear from you or about you. Village talk and you cant understand or know what they say about you.
You never had much luck with the ladies now matter how you tried.And you had your share. They all let you down, says you, but they dont stay long with a cookoo like you. Crazy Jack on drugs. And still doin them now.
Its great to hear the pups are sold and one or two mutts are out of the state pen. They make great pets most times and it feeds the nice papa Jack story.
Had to smile some when I read you're starting TRD rescue.You! Sort your own place first. Always blame someone when things don't work out. Never papa Jack to blame.
How many folk now about your 2 in the local dog rescue shelter? Jack the dumper.Anyways anyplace will be fine as long as they're outta your way and costin YOU nothing. Shame on you again.
Your sicko pictures of cinders are not for family viewing.What sort of veterinarian allows people in taking shots when he's at work? Is this the poor guy you pretend is your new business partner?
You always say don't trust a Thai. Now this!! Don't know if to tell you to 'get something down on paper' or 'don't put your name on paper'.He looks like a young guy new to the game but he'd sure better be a quick learner with you around .
Anybody reads this will say it's trash and I wish I could do something to let them know I'm just an ordinary guy with a nice life but I need to tell all those people out there about you.
Your years of selling dogs out the back of the car, sell and drive away. The cruelty to animals still keeps on even from Thailand.Went to my neighborhood restaurant and they said it reads true what they put on the blog. You never stop. Even living near the kids home. Yes it rang a loud bell.
I HATE BLOGS BUT SOMETIMES ITS THE ONLY WAY.
You were a wierd kid and nothing changes.They said the military would sort you out but they were wrong.Always a missfit. So don't pretend.You can't change.
Your last stand wont last. IT'S OVER. You cheated and badmouthed too many people now.They dont forget easy.You are a serial slanderer and now you cant expect people to treat you well - ever.
You are fighting for your life with this big last effort but it cant change all the bad things you did to so many folk.They are waiting on the sideline to cheer the blogger on and see you go down the pan for good.
If you need to mail the blog Jack, we can pass on the response.
Dress up the facade of your life but it fails to hide the reality within.
That cough sounds serious, are you getting enough rest? Take a holiday... in fact, why not just leave town.
We would like to bring your attention to the fact that Jack Sterling, AKA House of Sakorn has recently pleaded guilty to cruelty to a puppy which resulted in the puppy dying.
May we remind you that you are advertising him on your site and if readers of your site are not advised by you of his background, we believe we should make every effort to highlight his conviction to your prospective readers.
Of course, we will not make a song & dance of your site if you remove his advert.
For further information, please visit http://www.trdtruth.blogspot.com
For the Dogs !
We note the following advert http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/breeders/123013/10240.aspx and bring your attention to the blog which is highlighting the puppy mill practices of a convicted puppy abuser - Jack Sterling.
Please visit http://www.trdtruth.blogspot.com
Thank you for your time.
For the dogs !
Im actually glad you emailed. This rival between you and Jack has gone too far! You are involving us and we do not want to be a part of this. Somehow or another you have our award on this blog. Please remove this ASAP! Im not sure if this award was awarded to you or not, but if it was, it was in mistake. We do not promote blogs that slander any breeder. Ethical or unethical. That is not for us to judge. You are entitled to your opinion and free speach. Please do not involve us. We base our site on a complaint basis. As of right now, Jack does not have an account with us, nor any puppies listed for sale for that matter. He can have his business advertised in our breeders directory. We have never had 1 person who 1 on 1, purchased from Jack and complained to us. Facts or not, we wish not to be involved in this matter. Please remove anything associated with us from your website immediately.
Thank you for using NextDayPets.com
Hello and thank you for at least responding.
Firstly lets put the facts straight about your award. We merely placed a link with your site, by completing all the necessary process to to so and your automation judged the blog for an award. Something you should obviously review, if you are unhappy with people advertising your site without proper authorised control.
The use of the words 'rival' & 'slander' are an interesting choice. You perceive that we are competing with Sterling and using false information. The latter infers we operate without facts. This is untrue and our lawyers are our mediators with Thai Police. Evidence does not reach this blog without checking validity first.
Regarding the lack of complaints you base your opinion upon, we suggest you put yourselves in the shoes of a complainant. Firstly, Jack gets to know everything about a buyer before they see the dog. He then spends more than is necessary promoting his care for their future and builds a close liaison with the prospective buyer. This takes the form of email, messenger, web cam, phone etc. When something goes wrong, Jack bites hard and without concern for the buyer but for his reputation. After many of these in the years he has operated, forums and message boards have gone through terrible times with him. Some have banned him and some have increased their moderation overhead. Either way, he is a prolific abuser on line.
If you would like to receive first hand experience of his aggression, try asking him something regarding his conviction.
We are not in competition with Sterling but concerned for the welfare of the dogs he breeds. We were alerted by neighbours of him hanging dogs from trees, left to swing to die, he says because they are old and past their use for breeding. When people looked in his freezer, he had dogs their too, which he stated were put there to die as it was cheaper than a vet fee. When he then caused a puppy to have an infection by not taking proper precautions, he resorted to visit a vet but the puppy died enroute.
We are not the ones involving you in the 'promotion' of a blog. The blog is reporting that you are advertising Sterling as a breeder and prospective buyers are totally unaware of Sterlings treatment of puppies or of his conviction.
If you continue to advertise his name as a recognised breeder, without alerting readers of his background, then unfortunately we will need to act on behalf of the readers of your site, bearing in mind your agreement that we are entitled to free speech.
For the Dogs !
A (ex) customer Number 1 of NextDayPets
I just received an email from the Truth Blog regarding Jack Sterling, an infamous puppy miller in the TRD world. Your statement about competition being the root of this issue is utterly ridiculous.
Did you look at the Blog? Did you see the pictures? Did you read the accounts of the people who have obtained puppies from Jack Sterling? How can you just discount this information? I will answer my own question; it is easier for you to call it a lie – therefore, YOU AND YOUR ORAGANIZATON can go on business as usual and do NOTHING!
I am an advertiser on Next Day Pets! I also obtained 2 dogs from Jack Sterling that had multiple serious health conditions on their arrival to me that can be documented by medical records. One of the puppies had to be put down. I know of many people that have even worse experiences than mine. I am insulted at your implication!
After reading your letter to the Blog, I find your customer service skills utterly lacking, not to mention your contempt prior to investigation appalling. You didn’t even sign your name to your letter. I had to state who I was to register this complaint. I question the morals and ethics of a company that would answer a letter in such a fashion and stick their heads squarely in the sand such as you have.
I think your statement about competition speaks more to your mentality than anything we are striving to accomplish! DO NOT answer my email with such disrespect!
What are you talking about? We never mentioned anything about competition. We simply said we do not want to be involved in this battle between you and Jack. You have valid points as well as Jack. Our recommendation is for you two to handle this in a court matter. We are not a mediator and cannot offer any resolution in this matter. You have your opinion as well as jack has his. Jack has 0 puppies listed for sale on our site. If you purchased from our site from him back when, we never received a complaint.
Please direct your further complaints to your lawyer as we do not want to be involved.
Thank you for using NextDayPets.com
Customer Number 1
So you take no responsibility that your service may be pointing people to a source where they may be exposed to a puppy miller who sells unhealthy puppies with questionable business practices? That was what we have been trying to clue you about!
Myself and the Blog were thinking that you cared about protecting the public from unsavory sources. We would certainly not see you as any sort of mediator - you have the customer service skills of a bill collector! Here is the email I refer to.
Do you know what the word rivalry means? Try your spell check the next time you write to the public! Please keep in mind that there are agencies that frown upon companies that do not do diligence when advertising to the public.
We were warning you about this person whether he advertises with you or not at this point! Your attitude of "It's not my job" is apparent - "we're just here to make a buck!" Are you the same person that wrote the email below? I still have no idea who wrote either one of these emails because you don't sign them.
And another (ex) customer Number 2 of NextDayPets
I'm appalled that you would go to the depths that you have stooped to "support" Jack Sterling. You want the truth, here you go.
I purchased two dogs from Jack Sterling, both dogs came with Dermoid Sinus/Cysts which he said they did not have. I paid $4000.00 a piece for my two "breeding/show" bitches... He took the money, then screwed me w/papers, he then proceeded to name call and harass me for the last six years, because I started telling people about the truth of his practices. I was the one that looked like the bad guy. I didn't want to be associated w/a puppy miller, and thought that other people needed to hear the TRUTH.
If you want to support a puppy miller, you are no better than PETLAND! Why should we trust you, I thought your site was a place to EDUCATE people about the BREED, instead of just making money.
With people like you sticking your heads in the sand... no wonder the breed is dying in shelters, daily. He does not do rescue, like he "promotes" on his site he does. He's nothing but a cheat, and scam artist... and this just tells me that if you want to go on a allow people like him to advertise on your site, than you are no better than he.
I will be sure to never, ever recommend your website to ANYONE let alone pay you to advertise my dogs on your website!
So there we have it!
NextDayPets.com sems to be no more than a money grabbing bunch of people looking to make a fast buck on the back of unsuspecting customers who they hope are niaive enough to take what they read on a their website to be in their interest and if anything goes wrong they will refer you to your lawyer.
Moral of this experience - Don't trust NextDayPets.com
Your terms and conditions includes the following paragraph:
k. intentionally or unintentionally violate any applicable local, state, national or international law, including, but not limited to...
Can you please advise if being found guilty of cruelty to a puppy and causing it's death would constitute violation of this item?
If so, please be advised that Jack Sterling of House of Sakorn & a current advertiser with you, paid 1,000 Baht ( Thats about 30US$ but the maximum Thai law dictates for the offense ) on the 16 January 2008. Should you need evidence of this, please read the blog.
Should you wish to discuss this further, please do not hesitate to contact us. If we do not hear from you within a reasonable period we will have no choice but to emphasize this point on the blog without your input.
1st response from PuppyFind.com
Please provide the evidence in question so I can research it.
1 Attachments:(Thai Typed Police report)
Please read the blog as requested in the previous email, http://www.trdtruth.blogspot.com where you will read the evidence you require.
Attached is the original scanned police report.
Please act upon this with haste.
Unfortunately, that attachment does not help me. First, according to your blog, you typed that up. Secondly, I have no way of knowing what that says.
Unfortunately, there is not anything I am able to do at this time.
Why not send an email to Jack Sterling at any of these addresses
and ask him about the report, he has a copy of the same paper which came from the police and he actually signed for his copy. Our copy was likewise signed for. I take offense at the accusation that we "typed that up".
If folks do not read and write English, do I assume you immediately fail to trust them? Jack Sterling lives in Thailand, as we do. Thai Police do not write ( or speak ) English in this region.
So now you leave me no alternative but to publish your reluctance to take this matter seriously.
Jessica, say goodbye to some customers, we gave you plenty of chances to react positively about this.
Please ensure you read the blog tomorrow.
For the dogs !
I am sorry that you took offense at my email as it was not my intention to offend you. However, you stated on your blog that you have a "typed up report" from the original hand written report that you allude is not very legible by stating that your copy of the original makes "terrible reading".
I have sent an email to Mr. Sterling. At this point, you do not dictate the official report but give your synopsis of it. I am not able to read Thai and am not able to confirm what is written. There was no official document. If Mr. Sterling claims it says something different than what you claim, we are in a position of not knowing which is true. The document that you provided, does not appear to be an official document, however, I do not know how the authorities handle documentation in Thai.
If you wish to post that we are unable to confirm the validity of the claim against Mr. Sterling, you do have that right.
Michael Healy (Animal Law Enforcement Officer - Florida)
As an animal law enforcement officer (nationally certified animal cruelty investigator) and an animal advocate for over twenty years, I find it disturbing that you and PuppyFind as a whole, being that you are its representative, show such a nonchalant attitude about a convicted animal abuser and continue to allow him to advertise on your site.
Considering the evidence you have been provided with, you have more than enough probable cause to pull Mr. Sterling's ads while you further investigate. It seems the problem is that you choose to not investigate at all, rather wait for somebody to personally deliver to you the original citation issued to Mr. Sterling along with a translator and law book that spells out what exactly cruelty is.
By continuing to support Mr. Sterling by running his ads, you have demonstrated that you also support the beating and torture of dogs for profit. It is obvious that PuppyFind is no different than Mr. Sterling himself in that you are only concerned with the almighty dollar, regardless of what inhumanities take place behind closed doors to make it.
Shame on you and the organization that you represent. By your actions, you will lose more customers and, more importantly, any credibility that PuppyFind may have once had.
Palm Bay, Florida
We have not refused to investigate and we were not provided proof of animal
cruelty. I was given a picture of a "typed up report"(per the blog). I did try
to get it translated on my end and was unsuccessful. I did not ask for a law
book, etc. I did say that I was not able to read it and that according to the
blog in question (the only "evidence" I have been given is the blog itself)the
original was hand written and didn't make for "good reading".
I have not been able to find anything in my own investigation. We are a small
company and so a home visit to a seller in Thai is not something we are able to
do. We do rely on reports from regulating agencies, newspaper clippings, police
reports, etc. I also did let the blog owner know that I did send an inquiry to
the seller in question about the synopsis given of the report on the blog.
When I was originally contacted by the blog owner, I did tell them that we would
look into the House of Sakorn, but that the blog itself was not considered proof
of wrong-doing. I did state in my original email that it has been our
experience in the past that blogs and/or forums are not always truthful in their
claims. This has been our experience in the past and I am not contributing this
to the blog in question, however, it is why I am not able to accept just the
blog as proof. It is unfortunate but others have abused this process.
I also did let the blog owner know that those who had purchased from House Of
Sakorn, could leave a review of their experience. According to the blog, there
have been a number of people who have complained about House Of Sakorn dogs. I
did state, however, that our policy on reviews is to ask for proof of purchase.
No one has left a negative review for the seller.
This seller has been utilizing this website since 2003 without history of
complaint, which is highly unusual for a puppymill to have happen. I deal with
the reviews on a daily basis and individuals put up negative reviews for even
minor issues, and we have found and banned many puppymills through this process.
However, the account under Jack Sterling has not received a negative review.
Puppyfind absolutely does not support the torture of dogs and to glean that from
this situation is inappropriate.
I have explained the situation and what we are up against in regards to being
able to ban Mr. Sterling. I had offered the review system to the original blog
owner to be utilized by those that have purchased a puppy from Mr. Sterling and
was not taken up on that offer. We are doing all we can at this time and I am
sorry that you see it differently.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me.
It seems obvious to me that your reply is nothing more than a laundry list of excuses for continuing to help a convicted animal abuser sell puppies. You say that people are able to and should have left a review on your web site. Would you handle things differently if the accusations being made were done so on your web site review instead of the blog? Is that the "proof" you are looking for or would you also tell those people that you do not have enough evidence to pull his advertising?
Did you bother to look at the pictures of Mr. Sterling's facility? Did you not see the dogs stacked in wire cages, emaciated dogs with their bones showing through their skin, and dogs with cuts and sores on them? Is that "not enough evidence" to stop running an advertisement until further investigation has been done and more "evidence" has been collected?
Since I doubt you have a legal dictionary handy, Webster's dictionary defines probably cause as "reasonable grounds for presuming guilt in someone charged with a crime." As an animal law enforcement officer, I can assure you that the evidence that has been submitted to you is sufficient probable cause to take action. If he were in the United States of America it would be enough probable cause to obtain a search warrant. I did not ask you to "ban" Mr. Sterling. I asked that you temporarily remove his advertisements from your web site until you have appropriately looked into the complaints made, whether on a blog or your own web site makes no difference.
Additionally, if the statements being made about Mr. Sterling being convicted of animal abuse were not factual, he would have a case of slander against the person(s) responsible for the blog. He is aware of what is being said and he refuses to respond to anyone, including you, about the allegations. Why is that? Do innocent, upstanding, reputable people just sit back and allow such horrible things to be said about them without a single word to defend themselves?
This is not one disgruntled person trying to get back at somebody. There is a large group of people who are concerned about these dogs and the fact that Mr. Sterling was convicted of abusing a dog, yet you stand behind your excuse of "not enough evidence." Well I stand behind my original statement that PuppyFind is no different than Mr. Sterling himself in that your first priority is money, regardless of what inhumanities take place behind closed doors to make it.
You are allowing, actually helping this man to make profit off of the abuse of animals while you wait for more evidence. You absolutely have the legal right to pull his ads until further investigation has been completed but instead you have taken the easy route by sticking your head in the sand and hoping it will just go away. You may be a "small company" but I would hope you have some kind of connection to a lawyer. Maybe you should have him/her review the complaints and then explain to you that you can and should discontinue your service to Jack Sterling.
Having read various forums discussing how House of Sakorn puppy pedigree's are not worth the paper they are written on, I found a particular thread from a disenchanted recipient of one of Sterlings pups.
After learning from Sterling directly, that the puppy was from a litter on a certain date and from a mother known as Layla (Sterling's Clapton phase) and the father was one named dog, it transpires from Sterlings own website that in fact there were 4 possible fathers of the puppy, as Sterling had messed up his facts to make a good story.
If you are going to lie, you must have a good tongue... otherwise it will speak the truth before your brain tells it what to say.
If you know anything of Jack, you know that his tongue is not connected to his brain all the time.